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Okay everyone, firstly I'd like to tips on playing ultimate texas holdem that I am not a gambler. Originally Posted by ExaMeter. For example if i 4x when they have A7, but the flop pairs one of their cards, they give me the word and i automatically take 2x the action.

I reworked the math, turns out I was completely wrong on what you should be calling nonpaired boards with, the correct way of playing assuming my calculations are correct are as follows. I'm having alot of trouble reading some of your notes but very interesting and thank tips on playing ultimate texas holdem.

But I've been really studying this ultimate texas holdem game and i'm convinced that if you play an optimal strategy, it may be beat. Its important to note that when the board pairs and doesn't pair makes a huge different. I'm not expecting much EV improvement for collusion, because its basically an even-money game, and the dealer has to most played slots vegas for the ante bet, etc.

I have written down the results though, and have these to share with you But the key to the game really is what to do on the river without a made hand. But alot of equity is lost by most players by not knowing when to call on the river source high cards.

So even if i'm wrong about this game it still would be pretty cool knowing you are extremely close to ev against the casino and with beers and comps might even come out ahead. Is this beatable, and I played it but its was 3x raise.

Or, if you have a Mac, I can give you the binary executable. Then I jokingly suggested that hey if you don't want to bet it let me bet it for you since i'm crazy tips on playing ultimate texas holdem that try to make the deal while the dealer isn't paying attention.

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Its kind of messy but hopefully it can be interpreted. I finally worked out a basic strategy table for Ultimate Texas Hold'em, and will work out the collusion strategy sometime in the future.

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If you want my program, I'll give it to you, and you can look further into possible river exploits. Re: My road to beating ultimate texas holdem if you are talking about Texas Holdem Bonus that is my weakness at casino's.

Find More Posts by nonprofitgambler. I know of one way to beat it but you have to be careful. View Public Profile. So i did tips on playing ultimate texas holdem pokerstoving and came out with a list of when you should call.

Knowing an important card might take 1. Send a private message to nuisance. Dealers didn't say anything because they are clueless and don't tips on playing ultimate texas holdem i'm only doing it for the huge edge as they are oblivious to the math of the game.

Any hand with an ace Unsuited king and 5 or higher Unsuited queen and 8 or higher Unsuited jack and ten Suited king with any other card Suited queen with 6 or higher Suited jack with 8 or higher Any pair, 3's or higher.

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Mark Forums Read. Send a private message to nonprofitgambler. I wanted to bump this and ask.. Unlike Mississippi stud, where there's no dealer hand, and the pay table is much like Jacks-or-Better; collusion there improves the game from I finally got around to a 2-player collusion strategy for UTH, not that it helps much. One dealer said to me "pit boss might say something if he sees you doing side action, so don't do it too loud". Does this change the odds at all? Note that when I say a situation is close, that basically means you have to use your discretion on how drawy the board is. Originally Posted by nonprofitgambler. So from your study do you know mathematically if you have a definitive edge yet? BB code is On. What casinos in Vegas have UTH I have been working on strategy for this game for quite a while. If you really want to playtest a strategy you need to write a computer program that will playtest millions of bets for you. When the board doesn't pair is interesting, so lets say you call the river for 1 bet, well if the deal doesn't have a pair then you get your ante bet back. My road to beating ultimate texas holdem. User Name. So what I did last time was make friends with the table and the dealers. Beyond that, I'm not familiar enough with the game. So basically every time they have a 4x hand, i'd do it and whenever they like the board and say they'll take the rest of the action, we just work out the difference. Smilies are On. Theres another obvious way to gain edges in the game, which is that exposed cards from other players will help you make decisions. Send a private message to The Palimax. I am interested in discussing theories with like minded people and I would love a program that could produce random hands and results for this game if anyone is up to the challenge. Page 1 of Thread Tools. Last edited by nonprofitgambler; at AM. WoO claims that he cant come up with a optimal strategy for all streets since his computer "solved" the game using brute force going over all possible outcomes. Originally Posted by The Palimax. In fact, keeping track of that information might even be more valuable then a neighbor with random cards that probably won't affect your decision most of the time. Maybe on some boards where players are holding important cards, but for the most part I don't think it is enough. In the game, when the board pairs you get paid if you win by calling river. Any ten 1 over. Even if players aren't showing their cards you can still put them on a pair when they bet out. Knowing a few more cards is such a slight overall edge. There are more factors that I did not consider before like ties on the river. In their eyes i'm just some degenerate that likes to bet with an ace or king high, which in their minds is a dumb thing to do. So anyone who plays this game knows that the house edge really comes from players not playing optimally. I love to hang out at casinos but I know that every game there is -ev so i play table minimum for fun because i don't mind losing a little for a good time so this isn't a gambler trying to convince himself he can beat the casino. Find Threads Started by The Palimax. However, the table above shows that that a large raise should be made on the following hands. Not going to explain how you get , but anyone who has played the game and really thinks about it will see you get 4 to 1 by calling because when board pairs you get paid on the ante bet. I've actually pokerstoved certain cards against certain boards to determine when you should call or not. I hit the bonus for a few grand all together. Again if the dealer doesn't pair, you get 1 bet back. I didn't try to quantify the collusion edge, because it looked too small relative to the inherent house edge. Post flop everyone plays pretty standard, assuming they didn't go all in for 4x preflop, they pretty much bet when they pair anything which is fine. No overs kicker needs to be greater then one on board. Forum Rules. I never quantified a strategy to this game, because my computer figured out the optimal strategy on a hand by hand basis. If it is true though, then maybe a complicated collusion team can beat the game for a lot. It works out for them as well because even if they decide to not call the river, they still have the off chance of winning their ante bet or blind bet without having to make any call at all. All times are GMT The time now is AM.